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Zoey pic is awesome

Wait, the style of gameplay you described as “Grunt”, and proper crisis management is mutually exclusive? If that’s what you’re saying, then I’m going to have to disagree.

I wish Infected could eat Survivors to heal up. That would be awesome as well, especially for the Boomer, because the next time he vomits…

I totally agree. And what pisses me off when a whole group just WANTS the kills! I kept saying (This was in the internet cafe, I dun have the game… yet) “GET IN THE SAFE ROOM, YOUR RIGHT THERE!” but they all went for the tank. Suddenly, Zoey stops, and brings up a vote…

…to kick me. AUGH.

>>”The real point of the game is not to survive, but to have a good time doing it.”<<

At the expense of your teammate’s enjoyment? How petty.

@Nosedigger

I kinda figured that, but it’s not like I choose them on purpose. XD

@Melf

That’s… no. NOOOOooo…

@General Balls

Who says you can’t all have fun without sprinting from point A to point B, mashing melee all the way? Sometimes people want to play it like a regular game: Shooting the zombies, creeping into a building, stopping to heal, searching for items. You know, the way you’d think the game would be played (or consequently how you would go about the game’s situation had it actually occurred).

“killing the most infected” is one way to survive in the game actually. the more you kill, the safer you will be….compared to the time when you didn’t kill anything at all.

anyway, i think the OP wants to point out that grunts + strong teamwork spirit = CREDIT TO TEAM

Right then.

So taking the initiative to take point is bad crisis management.

Kneeling when taking point is bad crisis management.

Knowing the best spots to sit in when a crisis arises is bad crisis management.

Unloading the most damage into the tank is bad crisis management.

And people who do these things not only invariably make bad decisions in L4D, and are always trying to get more kills.

I’m sorry, but what the fuck? I take point with an shotgun, kneeling, yes kneeling, so my team can shoot over my head and steal my so-called “precious kills”. What, I should let the guy with the M16 or the SMG or the hunting rifle take point? No, because shotguns are effective at close range, and all the infected are going to be gunning for me because I’m taking point.

Seriously, having the highest damage on the tank is supposed to be indicative of bad judgement? Well SORRY for deciding to shoot the most powerful zombie in the game. SORRY for bothering to take point so that all the zombies will swarm at me - have YOU ever taken point when entering an area? Many times the zombies crowd at you from all directions - you’re giving free shots to your team. You lose health. And your team? THEY DON’T LOSE HEALTH.

I’m definitely not disagreeing with the parts praising decision-making, but man, did you stereotype. Good job. Now people who are bothering to get hit by the zombies first are lumped in the same category as killcount maniacs. I hope you feel proud of yourself.

Liar. There’s piss in it.

Besides all the pissbeer, sterotyping accusations and speedruns, I’m still just trying to figure out what on Earth is going on in the Zoey pic.

@Mooman
Zoey is thinking about where the next health pack is, how to feel about the witch, who is a woman after all, the tank holding Francis in his arms, and how she’d like to get a hot bath.

@Nosedigger : You’re a bad player. Stop whining and admit it.

Wait a minute, what DOES my skill level matter in this argument anyway? Ironic that the one who accuses others of obsessions over killcount can’t take his ass off a game to take a proper look at something as fundamental as prejudice, and instead takes cheap shots at his sole dissenter.

You’re not fit to write articles sir. You have shown yourself to be unfairly prejudiced, unable to take criticism, disrespectful of your readers, and worst of all you have the gall to insult my personal skill level when that is not the issue in question.

Are you going to meet my rebuttal head-on, or keep dodging, little man?

Wow. Lighten up, people. Don’t take everything you read so seriously.

I forgot how scary internet was. I think I will go back to my fish farm. Fish are considerate and are very wise. They never make me sad.

@Nose: Exactly, you skill level has nothing to do with the argument. I neither know your skill level nor am willing to argue with you. I was teasing you. Be what you want. This is not a legally binding article so I’m not worried if the wording leads to misunderstandings.
Feel free to disagree, I don’t like forums or blogs so much and am already pissed that I am writing back to you so much. I’m a bit anti-social and I intend to stay that way. Have a nice day. (rhyming ending yeah!)

I…I still don’t understand. I’m stupid. How do any of those things relate to crisis management? Why is Zoey picturing Francis in the tank’s arms? Does Zoey want him crushed? Has Francis ben crushed? Does she think they should have some sort of relationship/a hug?

I’M SO CONFUSED

Also, just to lampshade everything, INTERNET IS SRS BZSNESS

ballspeniscock!

1. How does my usage of internet memes undermine my own position, may I ask? Also, why did you try to derail things again with the “skill” jab? Everyone likes cheap shots so much nowadays.

2. Oh man, how nice of you to look at the ‘bad’, ‘evil’ parts of my comments and only look at hain’s first two ‘friendly’ ones.

3. I asked you where, and how. You have answered “where”. You have not answered “how”. If you don’t know, then I don’t think you’re really in a position to justify your accusations.

4. Sir, in addition to the examples I have already given, the post IMMEDIATELY after this one is a tutorial on how to use boomers. I could point out more pieces of evidence that shows that uber/boomercharged benefits the community not just in terms of humour, but I think I’d rather point out how your rebuttal is comprised of nothing but commenadable chunks of sarcasm and an inspired comparison to a behemoth (I would have gone for tank, personally).

5. I approach your cock tentatively.

6. With a meat hook.

7. ???

8. cake

Wow . . . just wow. I don’t know how to respond to that, honestly I don’t. I mean it’s like your having another conversation I’m not partial to here, either that or your writing a load of nonsense.

I will give you that boomer/ubercharged does have some ‘helpful’ articles but they are drenched in personal opinion, and have made no claims to be anything but. Yes my responses were sarcastic thanks for pointing out the obvious.

I’m derailing things with a ’skill’ jab, pray tell what the fuck are you on about? I honestly have no idea how I’ve derailed things by using the word skill, unless you thought I meant your game skill. If you did you are quite clearly retarded and unable to read simple things in context.

Hain’s first responses were nice until you decided to compare him to a racist and then call him a bigot, he was playing nice until you started unbased attacks on him trying to demonise him.

You have been very petty goading from the start, demonising anyone who doesn’t agree with you, all the while trying to play the victim. It’s pathetic, and I say that with no malice but pure pity for you.

@Mooman
Damn you. Die in a fire!

@IdleHands

1. There you have it. Uber/boomercharged helps. It helps, it advises. It was giving bad advice, so I thought I’d try to point it out. I don’t see how the articles being personal opinion renders anything I, or hain has said obselete.

2. Quite unable to read things in context? You were mocking me about some “skill”, with reference to my usage of internet memes, and that’s far enough from the original topic that I don’t need to explain all of it to become quite clear you have no interest in discussing anything intelligently and simply desire moving the conversation to a place where you can insult me and get back at me. If I’ve read you wrongly, give me an alternative explanation for what you have said, then.

3. Attacks on hain sir? Firstly you might want to read. I only began calling him a bigot, and unfit to write articles after (read: after) hain suddenly began insulting my ability to play L4D well. I wouldn’t say I wasn’t launching any sort of attack on hain, but it sure as hell was not unprovoked. To use your own words (I’m sure you want to insult me for my poor creativity here - hah!) You yourself have been pretty goading from the start, demonising me, all the while trying to portray hain as the victim. It’s pathetic, and I say that with amusement, no malice.

4. Comparisons to racism - I don’t know why this would mean such a big deal to you, really. Why does everyone start crying whenever topics like these come up? Racism in basic fundamentals is a bunch of stereotypes. That’s exactly my argument towards hain’s article - it’s a bunch of stereotypes. So it’s a bit of a stretch, but it’s connected, and the analogy fits. If you’re the sort of person who throws a tantrum whenever being even vaguely compared to unpalatable things, then I suggest you grow a bigger hide and try not to assume that just because someone uses an example faintly smelling of racism against you, he is calling you a racist.

5. Unbased? Maybe you’d like to explain that, because no one but Ness has actually tried to tackle my original argument head-on. Unbased, sir? Prove it.

6. Post-hain’s-cheap-shot, yes, I attempted to ‘demonise’ him, make him look like an asshole. Hmm. Yeah. I’m not sure how that makes me “wrong”, though, after you take into account that I did honestly think he was being an asshole to me. Maybe you want to explain that. Go ahead, tell everyone (lol, just mooman I guess) why me being a bad boy undermines my stand on the matter at all.

7. Also, in addition to trying to ‘demonise’ Mr. hain, I was also trying to get back at him for saying I was bad at L4D. I was, but it was a low blow, so yeah. =/

8. Furthermoar, I was hoping a real smack across the face (such as calling him unfit to write articles) would encourage him to take my argument head-on instead of just dodging and throwing random insults. (Granted, he only insulted me once, but I thought it might continue. Or worse, that would be his parting shot. Didn’t mind the dodging really - I understand if he didn’t want to argue or even reply.)

9. Goading from the start? Hmm. I’d like to see some evidence of this. I think the only place I ‘goaded’ was when I said he was unfit to write articles, and that was to get him to explain himself.

10. Demonising anyone who didn’t agree with me? That’s funny… I don’t remember Ness being on my side (he disagreed with me several times, check his posts). Can you show me where I’ve demonised poor Mr. Nessmk? I will apologize to him immediately if I have made him out to be a demon.

11. Trying to play the victim? Once again, you show how fixated you are on me, and not on the matter at hand. I’m not the only one who has been made out to be a bad player in L4D.

12. Speaking of, since the act of “demonising” someone means so much to you that it seems it might debase everything the “demoniser” says, I would like to point out that hain essentially “demonised” a group of players in his article. Namely, the “grunts”.

13. Since you prefer to argue on the personal level instead of the relevant one, I would like to point out that you have called me a pathetic, pitiful retard (not in that order, but hey) and accused me of goading and demonising others in the same sentence. Huh.

15. As proven above, you’re making self-contradictions - becoming sloppy. I’d wager you’re angry at me, so angry that you’re just going to uh… ‘demonise’ me some more. So I doubt you’ll let this conversation ever really return to anything rather than how pathetic, stupid, wicked, hypocritical, petty, pretty etc. I am.

I forgot where I was going with this. But what the hell, I think you’re pissed enough to type back something suitably pompous and reeking of intellectual superiority anyway! Get to it, man! Mooman and I are counting on you!

Incidentally, Mooman, if you’re still reading us, could you kindly provide an opinion as to whether my shabby attempts at humour are actually aggravating to the people on the receiving end? I’ve always hoped they’re at the least ease up tension for both sides - not sure I’ve got it right. =o

16. There is no 14.

1. “You have shown yourself to be unfairly prejudiced” - Your words, and as I’ve said many, many times this is a site steeped in personal bias.

2. I still don’t understand why your so fixated on the word ’skill’, there was plenty of other things to comment about but you can’t move away from that one word.

3. Yes he is a victim, we all are after reading your idiocy (oh no personal attack!)

4. Ooh you were so close, but racism is specifically stereotyping people of another race, and I don’t think a type of gamer is a race. You can call that bigotry but you do it a disservice when it should be used for people that hate gay people or hate muslims. Wildly flinging words like racism or bigotry for such a tiny issue makes those powerful words lose meaning, that’s why I don’t like it. Words are very powerful things, by overusing words like racism and bigotry it makes them lose their impact and eventually meaning. I hate it when people use those powerful words just to discredit someone they disagree with.

5. Again this random fixation on odd words instead of sentences or the message, but ok. I’m going to point out when you compared him to a racist (oh no not that again, what is it with me and that eh?). It was completely unnecessary to get your point across, you could’ve easily made a valid point without it but no you resorted to using it anyway.

6. Ok let me get this straight, you admit to acting like a dick. . . I never said being a dick negates your whole argument, just that you were acting like a dick. You thought he was being an asshole to you? I honestly can’t see that (and by now i’ve re-read things far too many times now)

7. Ah fight fire with fire always ends well.

8. So you thought that by really insulting him you could create a debate . . . yes that’s how debates really work it’s started by insults, wait no that’s fights.

9. Your words speak better than mine at this juncture;
“Answer me, COOOOOWARD” (I’ll admit this may have been a joke)
“SORRY for bothering to take point so that all the zombies will swarm at me - have YOU ever taken point when entering an area?”
“Liar. There’s piss in it.”
“I take shit from zombies while you sit snugly back and snipe things and pretend you’re helping out the team. You should be kissing my shoes. I may not be a very good player, but I don’t need L4D to spot a bigot. You stop whining and start thanking people like me.”
“You’re not fit to write articles sir. You have shown yourself to be unfairly prejudiced, unable to take criticism, disrespectful of your readers, and worst of all you have the gall to insult my personal skill level when that is not the issue in question.

Are you going to meet my rebuttal head-on, or keep dodging, little man?”
“Oh man, I love it when people tell me they “don’t care”. You’re not worried sir? Why are you even here then?”
“In any case, don’t reply if you really don’t give a shit”

10. Ok I’ll give you that I read a reply of yours thinking you were still in ultra pissy rant mode

11. Don’t worry I really don’t give a damn about you, as I suspect you don’t give a damn about me. What I give a damn about though is the way you have tried to carry out such a ‘debate’ it seemed more like ‘begging for an argument/fight’.

12. “since the act of “demonising” someone means so much to you that it seems it might debase everything the “demoniser” says”
Never said ‘everything you say is shit because you demonised him’, sorry I just don’t like people that demonise others over something so utterly small and petty.

13.

14. LIES! - (that refers to the fact there isn’t a 14, incase you take that the wrong way)

15. I just commented to say how you blew this whole thing out of proportion (by the way 16 point list eh? impressive) by unnecessarily trying to call the author a bigot and imply racism. Now though I’m just enjoying where this will end up, whee!

Ah nice little move there by the way, you make it so if I respond I’m ‘pissed’ and ‘pompous’ but if I don’t I guess you’d crown yourself king of your nonexistent hill.

16. There is in mine!

I never said what I thought about the original ‘debate’, why? Because I don’t care about that, it just stuck in my craw how you escalated this whole thing (by the way again nice 16 point response). One last thing; Fuck that’s a lot of words.